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There's a new trailer out for this. I was yawning through it. Looks like 2010 is not going to be a big step up from last year.
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http://www.imdb.com/news/ni1750344/
pushed back...i didn't see this coming,what's up with studios recently pushing back the release dates at the last min? it's OK,i can wait...the movie was recently done anyway so why rush things..
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The only reason I can think off is it avoiding Iron Man 2 which comes out after 2 weeks, if they had maintained their release date.
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This review is hilarious!
http://reelrave.com/review/1087
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Wall Street 2 is, quite frankly, a fucking ridiculous film. Review soon.
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It's an utter waste. Pointless and unnecessary.
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as much as i think this might not be THAT bad i can't get my ass to watch it..Wall Street 2? now? uh-huh sorry but i'm not that interested,Wall Street belongs to the 80's buddy...u want to comment on the current economy crisis? cool...get me a new movie with an all new title with all new everything and market it as Oliver Stone's comment on the recession just like what he did in the 80's then i'll watch it....however, producers will disagree...they think to release something the stupid majority already familiar with is less risky.
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The worst of the movie is the transvestite playing Gekko's daughter.
Carrey Mulligan
is painfully bad, and she looks like a feminine guy. They should have just cast
Jared Leto
instead as a son, and made
Shia
's character gay. It'd probably be a better film then.
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ok let's ignore this movie then...
http://www.youtube.com/v/A6smXinWzos&rel=1
again, if Hillary was the president none of this would've happened
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Shariq, have you seen the film? Or your opinion is speculations only based on what you've seen in the trailer? Because so far, and even back in Cannes, it is getting OK reviews.
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Quote from: ayaa1977 on September 21, 2010, 09:21:PM
Shariq, have you seen the film? Or your opinion is speculations only based on what you've seen in the trailer? Because so far, and even back in Cannes, it is getting OK reviews.
He saw it last night, along with Fizz.
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Then I need to incorporate your opinions in this weekend's article. Guys, give me something! I mean more than "fucking ridiculous" and "pointless and unnecessary". Come to think of it, those would be great tidbits for the DVD cover, lol.
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Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps
isn’t the sharp, critical film that its makers want you to think of it as. The sequel to the supremely influential, endlessly quotable original from the 80’s is a dull whimper about what triggered the present financial meltdown and though it’s cut from the same cloth as the original, it possess all of the bark yet, sadly, none of the bite.
Gordon Gekko is a name that defined an era. Played by Michael Douglas twenty three years ago, he reverberated in the minds of viewers as a ruthless, amoral investor without a soul. Years later, the sequel finds him released after serving his prison sentence. Cut to seven years after his release, and its 2008, the dawn of the financial crisis. Gekko is now known as a speaker publicly vilifying the notion of greed in corporate America while simultaneously, and some would reckon quite ironically, publicizing his book inspiringly titled “Is Greed Good”. A loner who travels in subways, he is estranged from his daughter Winnie (Carey Mulligan, androgynously unglamorous) who is engaged to a young trader named Jake Moore (Shia LaBeouf). Jake bumps into Gekko at one of his speeches (the films finest scene) and the two form a mentor-protégé relationship that irks Winnie but allows Jake to benefit by plotting revenge from Bretton James (Josh Brolin, the films principle villain), suspected of being responsible for the suicide of Louis Zabel, a close friend and confidant of Jake.
If the film sounds like a mess of relationships, then it is. As muddled as Stone's own political activism it has no clarity on what its trying to say. From trying to rationalize the reasons behind the market crash to the impulsive nature of human behaviour, it doesn't get either right. Not helping are the actors that Stone assembles. It’s a mystery to me why Shia LaBeouf is constantly being thrust down viewer throats in film after film by studios convinced he is the next best thing. He is not, and despite being dressed up in expensive designer garb, cannot pass off as being anything more convincing than a working intern. His relationship with Gekko has none of the enticing quality that Charlie Sheen’s Bud Fox did and a cameo appearance by Sheen only underscores this disparity. Douglas himself has none of the limelight. He has some powerful lines, but feels largely sidelined by the revenge/relationship/murder subplots and behaves uncharacteristically, especially in the very last scene (these were probably added as an afterthought). After showing some promise of returning to his incendiary, often infuriating filmmaking style and point of view with his previous film
W
, director Stone seems to have gone back to being comfortable working with drab studio approved material.
Not only was the original
Wall Street
a tremendously entertaining film, but one that was blessed with the critical foresight of its maker. The sequel partially entertains but does not have a new perspective. It is neither critical nor insightful and could have, with the same script and actors, been the work of a lesser director than Stone. The films themes are also impersonal - none of the characters suffer directly from the financial crisis the way they did in the original, they suffer from their own incompetent decision making, a sharp departure from how the original handled and fused stock trading with personal loss and gain.
Rating: 2/5
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The movie has easy fantastical resolutions, an alarmingly stupid villain (considering he's a multi-billionaire market player) and lead who is clearly a wannabe.
Plus a very annoying old man who whistle-wheezes like a boiling kettle. Those whistles of his should've been subtitled.
Good review Fizz.
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Fizz, does the infamous quote "Greed is good" find its way into the sequel?
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