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Re: Inception (Nolan, 2010)
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Quote from: shariqq on August 04, 2010, 01:00:PM
Quote from: ak on August 04, 2010, 06:34:AM
I see what you are saying, and like your rationale of Leo ending up and rotting in jail and not being able to actually meet his children; if he had made that trip back to America.
Brings me to a plot-hole: Why does Cobb not have his kids brought to France/Japan or somewhere out of US if he so desperately wants to be with them?
Now we're talking! Cobb's situation is superficial and Nolan designed it merely to elicit an emotional response from the audience. It's a trick and it seems to have worked (for the majority of the audience). Now, granted he is a very talented filmmaker and he is of course capable of handling this better. But in INCEPTION, Nolan has higher priorities: supplying James Bond-esque action scenes and assaulting the audience with *plot* (not story; there is a difference), to keep them from thinking during the film; he wants them busy just "keeping up."
INCEPTION is "deep" only as badly as the viewer wants it to be.
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in INCEPTION, Nolan has higher priorities: supplying James Bond-esque action scenes and assaulting the audience with *plot* (not story; there is a difference), to keep them from thinking during the film; he wants them busy just "keeping up."
Which he does fantastically well. I don't think anyone's praising the story anyway. What has people like me all excited and salivating about in this film is the plot, structure, visuals, etc. It's the "puzzle" he creates that is so damn awesome.
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Then enjoy it, my friend. I have said all that was needed to be said!
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See, folks, this is what I love about this place. Fifteen pages in and we finally agree that everyone can enjoy a film in their own way and on whatever merits they see in it. If anything, this is to the credit of the film -- it has engaged us in a way rarely seen in other film threads, and we all brought our best to the discussion. At the end of the day, isn't this what it's all about?
You guys rock!
Group hug? .... ummm... maybe not.
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let's wait until the bus actually falls....look it's ozzy flying!
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Quote from: shariqq on August 04, 2010, 12:52:AM
Calm down there, Ayaa. No need to be condescending.
How was that condescending Shariqq? Condescending would be if I said "excuse him he did not get it?", or if I said "it is OK take it easy on him he is not the brightest bulb in the box" for example. I was just stating an observation. Animatedude is throwing the word "hack" right and left without giving an explanation. This is a pattern here, he is not interested in discussion when he throw an outrageous or provocative statement, and you know it is true.
In this very thread, AK and Oddy were engaging in heated discussion. The two of them were in the opposite sides of the issue, and have major major disagreements. Yet their discussion was thought provoking, informative, and fruitful, as the two of them had valid points to say, and they both put it in articulate way. The discussion ended by the two in the very same position yet it was civilized and enjoyable. When I said what I said about the Dude, I was merely stating the obvious, and in a way asking you guys to take his words with a grain of salt. If you think this is condescension, then it is fine with me.
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Ayaa, if you need to let off steam, please do it on a movie/director/etc. Not against a member of the forum. Your tirade and above justification targets one of
us
and gets personal, which is not acceptable.
Animatedude's behavior in no way targets you or any other members of the board. Even if his posts are immature or just rants, they express his opinion of the director/movie/etc or tell us about him himself. If you want a good-natured dig at him, do it maybe against a movie/director he likes, like we all do with each other. (Try calling
Fincher
a hack, and see him jump to defend)
Let this be the last of it. Going forward, any message by
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I am backing up Shariq on this, because he is helping members enjoy their time on the WM Forum by keeping all participation consistent with the
Rules of Posting on the WM Forum
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So... was the idea of
Inception
planted in
Nolan
's mind by a Duck Tales story?
Uncle Scrooge's the Dream of a Lifetime
can be read here in full.
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Watching it was beautiful...3rd time round. I still stand by my theory Shreq!
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...and I by mine!
It'll be interesting to watch this with the director commentary once the DVD's out.
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Yesterday's collective experience (we were dream sharing Inception..haha) with some of the WM regulars was a delight and proved that the film stood up to second viewings (third for some) quite well. Nuances, character traits, bits of dialogues, all had an enhanced interpretation and/or meaning. Still is, and will probably remain, one of the best cinema experiences I've had in a while.
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...and I by mine!
It'll be interesting to watch this with the director commentary once the DVD's out.
Agreed. Can't wait for its release.
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Still is, and will probably remain, one of the best cinema experiences I've had in a while.
Yes, I agree. Watching it last night together was a fantastic experience. This is why & how we love movies!
Btw, gotta love
Ken Watanabe
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Cobb: How do I know you can do this for me?
Saito: You
DON'T!
For me, that line is as iconic as him saying
INJUSTICE
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Batman Begins
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Watanabe
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Btw, I've dared a friend to stare at his eyes in this image for 25 seconds every night before going to bed for a week. I want to see what psychosis she goes through.
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LOL, true! He's got such
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